Conversation with Uncle Arthur and others

So, after once again seeing no activation yesterday or today after hearing it is done I called Uncle Arthur and called some of the people I know with DC connections to try to figure out what the heck is going on.

Like I have said before Uncle Arthur is not a whole lot into the IQD situation, but is into other things and a financial adviser. My question to him was about this ridiculous story about a bus load of dinarians going to the banks and this is the reason we have not seen the activation. He chuckled repeatedly throughout our whole conversation over that one. He always answers my questions with questions, because he thinks people should use the brain they were given and not just listen blindly to other people. His statement on this , after he had stopped laughing initially, was to say there is no way that a bus load of people at one bank stopped the activation of a global event. He then proceeded to tell me I must be an idiot myself if I even believed that for a moment. Stop and think about it, he said. What would happen to you if you and a bus load of people drove into a bank parking lot and got out asking about the revaluation of the dinar. I said well they would look at us like we were nuts, politely tell us it is not a trade-able currency, has not revalued and say Good Day... He said, Ok what would happen if you didn't leave or caused a scene. Well, we all know what would happen. They would call security and we would be asked to leave, escorted off the property of arrested for trespassing. HOWEVER, while it may cause a scene which would in turn alert the media, it would NOT stop banking services or banking transactions etc. As he stated also if these people were ignorant and brazen enough to get together and do this sort of foolish act, that was so disruptive that it stopped a whole CE don't you also think they would be brazen and foolish enough to band together as a group and be able to find some media outlet that would be willing to listen to them?????   Well, I have to say his answer made sense to me.

Uncle Arthur agreed that he has been hearing that we should see this revaluation and he is surprised it hasn't happened yet. He said he has NOT heard the double digit rates that I relayed to him. He also said that if the rate was supposed to be 3.87 rate in Iraq for it to line up with the rate we had agreed upon for the other countries (ie $38+ here and then $10 for the VNN) that yes, something as simple as being $3.89 would throw the system out of line again. Yes 2 cents off will throw a flag. Its like he explained to me before and I posted previously..If A=B then C has to be a specific number.

I spoke also with my friend who is a high clearance program manager at one of the big 4 and he said again that he has heard nothing so far. 

Common sense should tell all of us now that people being called into call centers, if that is factual information, or just more misinformation people are feeding the gurus, means nothing because that has been happening all year per the gurus and we still have no RV.

So, the bottom line is, stay hopeful. Keep expecting it ASN but live your life as if it will not happen for another year. I have talked to many people who are actually allowing this to make them physically ill. We cannot control the timing of this. Do not stay up every night, waiting for a text. Go to bed. Remember that thee "gurus" are just human beings. They tell you what they are told, and if the truth was known we would probably find out that some of them are just repeating the statements they have heard from others who are supposedly in the know. 

As for people who claim they have did their currency exchange and are still posting in forums, then one of two things is true . Either there is no NDA, or they are not being honest with you and have not did a CE any more than you and I have. Use your common sense. Google stacks of money and you will see how easy it is to fool people into thinking you have stacks of money. A good photoshop job can also fool you 100% of the time. Do not continue to be mislead.

If someone starts off their call with "I have all of this wonderful news to share with you," and then shares nothing, you might be a misinformed dinarian 

If you stay up all night waiting for a text that never came, you might be a misinformed dinarian.

If you are sitting in the McDonalds next to the bank , waiting for those 800#'s , you might be a misinformed dinarian

If you live your life waiting for next posting from someone who claims that have already did the CE, you might be a misinformed dinarian. (stop and think about that one)

If you can praise one guru but bash others that are saying the exact same thing, you might be a misinformed dinarian.

Now, stop being misinformed  and go out and have a fantabulous day!!!!!

Uncle Arthur 11/14/13

Hello Angeni

You asked me where do I think we currently stand with this currency revaluation situation. I see the leaves as they have changed color and are falling to the ground. I see this as an indication that winter is coming upon us.  As I sit here writing this to you I can see an a-wa-ni-ta (baby deer) right outside my window, while his mother watches over him. Last night up on the hill there was the biggest ga-la-gi-na (buck) I have ever seen backlit by the light of the moon. The air was so cold and the moon so bright shining on him you could almost see his breath.

These are all signs, and as such there are many signs about the currency exchange and what is going on surrounding it.

It does not take a “guru” as you call it to read those signs. It just takes you and me and others sitting back and being quiet and still and reflecting upon things to see what is happening. In my last note to you I told you this was all about egos and that has not changed. Why do you think Tony has been telling you for a month that this HAS indeed happened and then you have not seen the results of his words. For starters I have a feeling that he is given the information that those in power want you to see. They know he is looked upon as a hero to the masses and people hang on his every word. That however, does not mean that the information he is given is always factual. Do not be like the  u-no-de-na (sheep) to slaughter. I smell the scent of di-la ( skunk ) . Egos and attitude are what is holding this up and you are at the mercy of those feeding your hero his information.

There is only one thing I will continue to tell you and that is that no one can give you an exact date or time. As a financial advisor I will also tell you that I have never heard of anyone signing an NDA after the fact. NDA’s are signed before the information is given to you, you do not shut the barn door after the horse already got out. IF there is an NDA to sign it will be in reference to do not tell the rate you received, do not write a book, do not contact the newspapers, do not do a movie etc etc…all about things you have not did YET. There will not be an NDA about discussing the currency revaluations in general because each and every one of you have already discussed it repeatedly with other people you have tried to get involved in this deal so it would not be enforceable.

So, while I do not have any specific information to give you I will say that all of the signs point to us being very, very close. Could it be today, tomorrow or before Thanksgiving? Yes, the signs point in that direction. Do I think that when any guru is told it will happen in the next 3 hours, then it is switched to 72 hours, then at 10pm after those 72 hours, then 1 am after that and then when that doesn’t pan out 2-6 more hours and you are still waiting, do I see that as truthful? No, I see that at someone being played. If your contacts cannot pin it down any better than that, yet they continue to tell you day after day, hour after hour then I say a wise man would shut up and stop repeating what is obviously incorrect information.

So, enjoy the rest of your evening, let the spirits bathe you in peace and tranquility. Breathe in the crisp cool air and know this IS happening, all signs point to it. But please do not hold your breath waiting for the “moment”. It will happen when it happens, but just as the second coming, no man knows the day or the time.

Inola

Disturbing events

It is really disturbing to me that a moderator from another forum would send one of my moderators a snarky message about her becoming a moderator on my new site. This friend of mine is a wonderful, sweet, kind, unassuming soul and did not deserve the PM that she received. My forum was made because there were no guarantees that a new forum was going to be created and people were having major withdrawal symptoms. There was no need to hurt a very wonderful young lady's feelings or make her feel that she can now no longer be a part of any forum. Shame on you. I used to have so much respect for you, now I have none. What you did was uncalled for, selfish and very childish.

NEW DINAR RV FORUM IF INTERESTED

NEW FORUM FOR ANYONE THAT IS INTERESTED:)

Since TNT site is down I have registered a new forum for anyone that is interested.
Please feel free to visit. I am NOT going to be banning people just because their opinions are different from the majority. As long as you disagree like an adult, with dignity and respect you can do so. No bullying, or being nasty tho. Here is the link to my forum. You do have to register.

http://rv4youandme.boardhost.com

China, USA, Iraq????? Oh my!

So, this is really getting a little bit ridiculous. If a woman was in charge of this, the one thing I know is this would be DONE! Women do not play these stupid games.

As I said previously, we will only see this RV when all the bullies are put in their place and someone says enough is enough.

So, PLEASE...I don't care which one of you stand up to the plate and do what needs to be done, but will one of you please say "Ok, I am not playing the game any more, this is going to be finished and it is going to be finished today. We are not playing ball with you guys any more, this is in all of our best interest and so ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!" If you guys get what you want out of this, then fine, if not, then oh well, you should have stopped kicking this thing out farther and farther. 

This is like the play yard bullies are playing keep away, and the ball is the RV. So, how about you just walk away and the bullies will get tired of this. Stop being the moron in the middle, stop playing the game and the bullies will get tired of this.

Don't stand in the middle jumping for the ball as it goes over your head, and tell me this is happening today, because until you step out of the middle, stop grabbing for the ball and running from East to West this is NOT going to happen.  So, if it is the good ole USA in the middle, then act like adults and walk away please! Stop telling the gurus today, today, today when you are still in the middle trying to grab the ball. Unless you happen to have the RV firmly in your hands don't tell us it is done!!!!!

And for those of us that are in the play yard, cheering the guy in the middle on...please step away. The only thing we are doing by cheering them on is prolonging our misery. Stop being the audience and maybe the game will get old quicker and we will be able to see that elusive RV just fall into our laps....

In the interest of truth?

So, while it does not matter in the grand scheme of things as far as I am concerned, several people have sent me information pointing out that while tntdinar.com has stated they have closed down their registration they have since added 3 new members. There is nothing wrong with this, but hey let's be honest. We all talked about how ptr said they were closing down membership and then they didn't, we all talked about the "oops, I sent you a text by mistake scenario, etc" So let's not be the pot calling the kettle black here please.

What happened to the title under TNTdinar being Administrator? Now it is Moderator, and the user Admin is now Administrator? What happened to GeorgeH being banned after PMing a nastygram to another member to all of a sudden being unbanned so he could post another goat bloat?

Do these things matter, in the grand scheme of the revaluation? Of course not, but they do matter in the scheme of honesty.

Just a little rant...... If you will lie on the small things, then why should we believe you on the bigger issues?

Elusive RV for you and me....

So, once again we thought we would wake up this morning to see the digits in our bank accounts. How could it possibly not be happening? 

I want each of you to stop and clear your mind. Close your eyes and think with the brain God gave you. Think back over the past 3 or 4 years and look to see if there are any patterns you can see. Has anyone ever been right? No, not as far as the RV goes they have not been. However, there have been many times over the past years that both Okie and Tony have been correct, as well as anyone that then regurgitated the information either of them were given. As I said the PTB allow a certain amount of correct information to get out, just so they can gain your trust, as well as the trust of the "gurus" giving you the information. Of course one day , if they call it every day SOMEONE will get LUCKY and call it correctly :)

So, what will be the next reason for the RV eluding us? Oh, there will be one....and then the next and the next until one of two things happens. 1) The PTB get tired of playing whatever game it is that they are playing. (and believe me I cannot figure out what that game may be as it makes absolutely no sense, because what can they be profiting from this?...that is the question you need to be asking yourself) or 2) Enough of the "good guys" get tired of being bullied and force the hand, which is what I am hoping for.

There is no one, and I do mean NO ONE, that knows in advance the date this will happen. There are people that have fantastic contacts, very high up contacts, that are being given dates and rates, but those are not factual they are fictional. It is like we are on the end of a puppet string and the PTB want to watch us dance for some sadistic reason that only they know of, so they keep telling the people we have grown to trust that it is happening, today, then tomorrow, the next day etc etc.

I am not trying to discourage ANYONE, this currency exchange WILL happen, but I want each of you to stop putting your faith in mankind, stop staying up late , stop taking your cell phone to bed with you, stop putting your life on hold. LIVE your life as if you will not see this for another year. Go out and have some fun. Many of you are wasting very precious moments , waiting for this RV. Spend time with family and friends, the RV isn't going to disappear just because you are out having some fun instead of being attached at the hip to your PC or your cell phone!

So, go out and find what excites you. Pay your bills on time, do not spend money that you do not have, and live within your means. 

((hugs)) to all, with prayers for a speedy release and the strength to survive until that time comes.
~Angeni

PRIVATE MESSAGES???? NOT!!!!

ALSO, Just to keep you well informed and not blinded by misinformation. The PMs that you send and receive on tntdinar forum are NOT private messages. I had many of mine deleted from both my inbox and sent box as have many other TNTdinar forum members, so PLEASE do not say anything in PMs that you do not want the moderators to see.

Also, if you have a PM you want to keep, copy and paste it into an email you send to yourself, otherwise it might wind up deleted mysteriously!!!

A cow by any other name...????

Or a goat that regurgitates it's food. There is nothing of interest to say about the goats most recent post. It is just a history lesson pulled off of Wikipedia which anyone could post as well as regurgitated information, some now from Uncle Arthur , which is too funny. (As you recall Uncle Arthur said we will not see this now until Thursday at the earliest)
What ever happened to the end of September, first of October? Or was it April, May, June, July, August????
The point is the goat has no more information than the average reader or owner of dinar that listens to multiple "gurus". All the goat is doing is chewing up their information and posting it back as hers, with a lot of unnecessary nonsense attached.

I am NOT speaking of Angelic or SoReadyforit

I was just told that Angelic felt Tony had to discuss something on his call today because "A2 is saying the mods are backstabbing Tony" 

NEWS FLASH, I GUESS YOU NEED TO GO BACK AND RE READ WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN. I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH EITHER ANGELIC OR SOREADYFORIT, BOTH ARE GOOD MODS. 

I am referring to one specific Mod and neither Angelic or SoReadyForIt is that Mod :)

Interesting website

Wow, so I was looking at my stats to see where people are coming from that are viewing my site. Got a big chuckle out of that but it also took me to a site that I did not know existed. It is called 7secretsearch.com

I had never heard of this site before so I decided to check it out and WOW, if they have factual information it was definitely an eye opener. You can put in a domain name like dinarrecaps.com, dinarguru.com, ptr.com,tntdinar.com, etc etc and it shows you how much money those sites make each day. Very informative :)

Talking to Uncle Arthur

The intel providers are giving you the information as they receive it, the only problem is that since the people that have bThe below information came from a telephone conversation with Uncle Arthur. I know it is not in "his" format and grammar :) but I do not typically intersperse my conversations with Cherokee words, so sorry you will have to take me as you find me :):)

Q.It seems that we are hearing that every day is the day. What is the reasoning for this? Are intel providers deliberately giving us misinformation?

A. No, the intel providers are just giving you the information that the PTB are providing them for their own motives. The point is that this information is manipulated information. As you have noticed you are being told every day is THE day. The sad part about this is that good people are falling for that information since it is coming from great sources that have told them truthful information in the past. That is the purpose of the people providing the information. They had to give out just enough factual information such as the Qi Cards being loaded and an in country RV , and then an international RV on September 19th to draw everyone in. It is called trust. Once they gain your trust then they can manipulate you and pull you into the web of deception even farther.

een giving them information so far have been about 80% correct then it is assumed the remaining information will be correct as well.

Q. What is the earliest date you think we will see this blessing?

A. Thursday, October 17th is the EARLIEST for it to be visible to us.

Q. So is the date of October 17th attached to the debt ceiling date?

A. Yes, and NO. The rest of the world is waiting to see what the USA is going to do. The PTB are still fighting wanting more, more, more. If they do not receive what they are requesting then they are not going to allow this rv to  take place. (or so they think) There are people of character fighting to put an end to this ego war. It is just a matter of time before Good wins out over Evil. The good guys are really pushing hard, and fighting back against the bullies. Now we need to all hope and pray that the good guys are not fooled into thinking the bullies have given in when in reality they are waiting to stab the system in the back again.

A lot of things are going on in the background. We cannot see this process, but wheels are turning, deals are being made in secret. Some people are having a change of heart for the better so the good boys are gaining in strength and popularity.

Let's keep the positivism flowing. Free your mind of all negative thoughts. Visualize all the peace that will flow into your lives , the weight of the world being lifted off of your shoulders. The plans have been laid, and while there may be detours along this journey the dinar is on the road, we can see our final destination through the window in front of us.

Please do not let anyone deter you from your mission. Whatever you had planned to better humanity, do not forget once this money is in your bank accounts. Remember to help others , to help your neighbor. I am not asking you to give a hand out to anyone, but be willing to give hands up. 

In closing please do NOT give your full name to ANYONE or any website or forum just in exchange for a text message when this thing pops. Giving a user id and a disposable cell number is no issue but please do not make it easy for others to find you.

Uncle Arthur

OT correct, because it is a FEDERAL RESERVE NOTE! not a UST note. 

~On the subject of Mountain Goat ! I imagine you will see a new mnt goat after the conference call tomorrow or just before this time. The goat has to take the information that you are going to hear on the conference call and regurgitate it either after they get the information from the Mod prior to the call or after the call. You will see no NEW info on the goat post. Remember according to the goat this should have happened already.(many times) Not faulting the goat because he/she is just basing their information on what is coming from Tony, either after his calls or when he shares the info with a certain mod. and his information is coming from great contacts.

Have a wonderful week, and I hope we see this before the end of the week, but we will not see this prior to Thursday (at the earliest)

((hugs))

~Angeni

~One other thing I want to point out. Why all of a sudden are we no longer being told about the new $100 bill note being a new UST note???? All we heard from certain intel providers was how once we saw that new $100 note we would see this RV. I told you then it was N

I love me some "Tony" TNTDinar

First , let me say a public Thank You to all the awesome people who have viewed my blog as well as all the wonderful emails I have received from so many of you!!! I am honored and AMAZED!!! You are the silent majority!!!!

I wanted to clear up something though. I do not want anyone to bash Tony to me. He is doing what he feels is right for now. He is giving you the information as he receives it, and as I have said repeatedly the man has a heart of gold. It does not matter to me what he may or may not have said about me . I know without a doubt that if he hd honestly read my blog he would not be saying anything against me. He would say everyone is entitled to their opinion and he may defend his blessed mod, but he knows I have always defended him and his information and I will continue to do so.

I do not mess with forums etc anymore on the weekends. I refuse to allow my life to be lived only in waiting mode :) And as always, I am spending my weekends LIVING life, not existing and I suggest that you all do the same. Maybe by Monday I will have something new to share with you. 

Just remember to be safe online. Do not be sharing your information with any dinar site. Do not put yourself or your family at risk. 

Thank you again for all of your supporting emails. It is wonderful to see that some people use the common sense God gave them . 

Once again, do not give up on this adventure, we are almost there :)  In the meantime on the tntdinar.com forum do not allow anyone to bully you. The trolls are trolling, and they will try everything to discourage you. The voices of reason are being silenced one at a time and eventually there will be no more... Remember the poem I posted a long time ago.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out-- 
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-- 
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me. (Martin Niemöller)



((hugs))
~Angeni

So, Angeni, you really stirred up a hornets nest here now didn't you?

And in so many ways it was unintentional. Having discernment is sometimes not very much fun at all.

This is just more of a jumbled thoughts post, but for any one who is reading this, and I can tell from my stats that more are reading this than I ever thought :) Please use common sense. Do NOT be giving people your real name or real email address to go with your phone number just because you want to be alerted by text message when this RV pops!!! DO NOT DO IT! How many of you have already been getting text messages from stock market and investor groups??? I know I have and I also know there is only ONE place I have signed up and given this telephone number. ONLY ONE!

I will state and restate a million times if I have to that I do not believe Tony has a thing to do with this. I think he is 100% in the dark, and I think he is 100% honest. Do not blame Tony, blame his "Blessed" mods, the same one that totally wiped me off of TNTDinar.com because they did not like the fact that "The truth needs no crutches, if it limps it's a lie" I told you guys so many times that I do not like bullies, and that bullies need to be called out. So you really think that by deleting me and all of my posts that it will be like I never existed in the first place? Sorry, too many people enjoyed what I brought to the table and too many people have my email address, so yes, little by little you will be exposed for who you are and one day Tony will wake up and see this as well.

People  continue to listen to what Tony has to say... but DO NOT GIVE OUT YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION ALL FOR A TEXT MESSAGE!!!! When this RV occurs it will be blasted all over recaps, all over Okies site, all over the place. All of us have friends that are in this. WE WILL KNOW :) YOU WONT BE LEFT OUT IN THE DARK ALL ALONE!!!!


((hugs)) and blessings for your day!
Angeni

So, the below information was sent out telling the forum members of TNT to HURRY UP and sign up for the new text alert system because TNT had exceeded their count ????

"HURRY UP AND REGISTER FOR OUR NEW TEXT SERVICE AND EMAIL ALERT!

We have exceeded our Text alerts and they have closed our account so we now have a ..

NEW IMPROVED TEXT SERVICE WITH AN ADDITIONAL EMAIL ALERT!

Sign up now on our website  www.TNTdinar.com

Just click on the SMS text button on the upper right of the front page and then follow the instructions.

This time you just type in your First and Last Name, Phone number and E-Mail address.

This will work great for those international members and those who can't receive text messages.


TONIGHT IS LOOKING GREAT SO DON'T WAIT!  SIGN UP RIGHT AWAY AND TELL YOUR FRIENDS!"

 Now sorry people but have a brain please. When TNT first posted about the texting service I decided to go check them out because I knew from past business experiences that there are many sites where you can send out mass texts for free for a period of time . So I went to the EZ Texting site that they were using. I signed up myself and have 20 credits totally FREE. TNT has not sent out any texts at all. I don't care if they have 50,000 members sign up , there is NO limit to the amount of contacts or groups! So why all of a sudden have they decided to switch to a new service? A new service that now wants your FULL NAME  as well as email address and phone number? Could it be 100% innocent? IF the information they gave about exceeding their limit had been truthful I would have said yes, but since the facts in their blast is incorrect then I have a tendency to say SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT!!!!!

http://www.eztexting.com/pricing/

Unlimited Contacts & Groups

Your Ez Texting account has no limits when it comes to contacts and Groups.

As you can see from this as well as if you go on their website you can have unlimited contacts so the whole story about they had exceeded the number of contacts they could have was a LIE

While it DOES cost TNT to send texts they have never sent a text so far, so that cannot be the issue!

And we see above that even if TNT had 50,000 or more members you can have an unlimited amount of contacts so that cannot be the issue either!!!

P.S..the saga continues...so someone sent me this from the forum as well. Deception thickens...

(Member 1)Coincidence on day we look for the RV the old service provider reaches limit and closes account? Why close? I signed up for new but it is curious why they (text service) operate that way. Hoping for tonite!

(Member 2)just a guess, but I don't think they expected 20,0026 members.  even at $.10 to $.03 a text, that's a butt load to pay unless you get a bigger texting service co and get the big discount.  jumho


(Mods answer)MOD EDIT - YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!  WE NEVER EXPECTED OVER 20K MEMBERS BUT ARE GLAD YOU ARE ALL HERE AND THIS GIVES US A CHANCE TO ADD THE EMAIL ALERT

Seek and ye shall find .....

Last night when I was speaking with a few fellow forum members I said to them, "watch, A23954 will be deleted next" They had deleted Wausha and all traces that he ever existed, so I knew I would be next since he and I both had complained about the racist remarks we had endured as well as being pretty stead fast in pointing out the inconsistencies in the goat remarks. When I woke up this morning there were the emails flooding my inbox, saying that the moderators had did to me what they did to Wausha, we were wiped out as if we never existed. We weren't banned, we were wiped out, so perhaps this means Tony doesn't even know about it????

I have NEVER said anything negative about Tony. He has never been disrespectful to a member of his forum. He is giving us the information as he receives it so he is not lying to anyone. He has told the truth as he knows it. I could have came on the forum and repeated word for word the information that has been spewed to me via telephone calls from PTR but I have chosen not to do that , and I do not think that information was factual. Still gotta love me some Tony :)

With that said however, I have no use for others. I went back over my last blog to see what exactly had I said to infuriate certain people, and it dawned on me that what had actually happened was that I had set the truth free for all to see. So, since we want to go that route perhaps I need to go even deeper down that rabbit hole?????

When it first became apparent to me that the mountain goat was beginning to be negative and bashing Tony I started posting my opinion, respectfully. Imagine my surprise when I received a nasty gram from someone that called themselves Treeman. He told me my opinion was not welcomed on the forum and that I needed to learn to keep my opinion to myself. His tone was very threatening and included that he was the brother of one of the mods. (ie:shut up or I will have my sister ban you) I thought he was just a mountain goat fan trying to threaten me and so I sent the PM on the all of the moderators and asked them if it were true, and why would one of their brothers be threatening me. (It was shades of what I had been told about the "Snake" moderator at PTR and how he would threaten members thru PMs) Imagine my surprise when I received another nastigram, this time from a "blessed" moderator. I knew then, that what Treeman had said was indeed the truth. That was what got me to thinking. What better way for PTR to be able to keep tabs on what Tony was saying or doing than to have some of their members decide they wanted to start Tony his own site. Makes it that much more easier to manipulate the members as well as to be certain PTR gets the information and can regurgitate t just like the goat does. Where do you think the goat gets their information from....you guessed it, Tonys intel. The goat never comes up with anything of value unless it has already been said by Tony.

Now ,on to the most recent thing that makes you go hmmm. How many times has Tony told us to NOT give out our real name to anyone How many times did he say how foolish that was? Now all of a sudden, the texting site they were using can no longer be used, even though they have never sent out even one text?
Now all of a sudden instead of just giving out your user id and your telephone number they now want your real name, first and last , as well as your email address and phone number? I thought Tony told us repeatedly NOT to do this???? Why the change?

More to come on this fiasco, including the texting service. So stay tuned and check back later on for more.


For those with common sense, do not be discouraged. Yes, information and people are being manipulated but this is still going to happen. It could happen any second of any day. Do not sell your dinar:)  However, we should each go out and live our lives . Precious moments are being wasted.

((hugs))
Angeni

Hide and Go seek

I spoke with Uncle Arthur today to try to get new insight on what exactly is going on. He pointed out some things that are actually very obvious. He said as far as the Currency Revaluation goes it is being held up for the same reason it has been held up ever since September 19, when it was released. The reason you and I have not seen the digits in our account is as simple as it is old, and he has said it to me repeatedly. It is all about egos.We see it almost every day in one way or the other. We see it on the forums, each and every one of them. Do you think that it is only Okie's mods that have ulterior motives? Think again. The mods at TNT also are struggling with their very own ego issues and thirst for control. It is evident by the way they have turned on certain members of the forum. Not only do members have to deal with other members bullying them they now have to deal with mods that do the same thing. Many people have accused Tony of selling our email addresses , I think the reality is that certain moderators have sold our email addresses. As a member of TNT I have experienced the same nastiness from moderators the same way people experienced the threats on PTR. There must be something in the water moderators drink, because after a small space of time the moderators turn on the members. On several occasions I have been ridiculed or told to go to hell. As if that is not bad enough I have then had the very people that are supposed to be moderating these forums , laugh and join in with those people who were bashing me. I can guarantee you that if any of these individuals were face to face with me not one of them would have the gonads to speak to me the way they have in these forums. It takes a very small mind to treat members with such disdain. They are not supposed to be part of the problem, they are supposed to be part of the solution.

So, on to this silly little RV. Where is it hiding?

Is it hiding behind the debt ceiling? Do you REALLY believe that? Do you have to be a rocket scientist to know that the debt ceiling is going to eventually be raised? Do you have to be a guru with super secret contacts? NO! You just need to have a little bit of common sense. I see people reading things that the so called gurus post that are just good old common sense and still be mesmerized by it. Are people truly that ignorant?

Have you ever stopped to really think about this situation, or are you just blinded by the desire to see the money? Stop and think in the past how loved Okie was, and how great his information was as well as his contacts. Do you see any similarities here? Once Okie's popularity was gone the PTB needed another hero. Someone else that was as loved and as respected as Okie used to be . Okie became a laughing stock, he had outlived his usefulness and so the PTB discarded him like a dirty dish rag. Enter Stage Right, a new and well loved replacement, aka Tony. Is the information Tony shares with us truthful information? To a degree it is factual. It is factual as far as the PTB allow it to be. Is there misinformation thrown in? Unfortunately, yes!
Do you really think for one moment that any bank employee could get away with sharing privileged information with Tony? There is no way that if that information was not being manipulated that you or I would ever be hearing about it. The bank employee would be tracked down, and not only fired but be facing criminal charges. So does that mean the information we are being fed is incorrect? Not necessarily, but it is being manipulated as are we . For what reason? I am trying to figure that one out. Are the bits and pieces keeping the masses satisfied for now? Yes, so perhaps it is that simple.

Noone, including ANY guru can tell you the rate, the date or the time. All they can do is parrot back to you the information that they are being spoon fed by the PTB for very specific reasons.

Does it really matter in the grand scheme of things who the mountain goat is?No!  I have no clue who the real goat is but she/he is no different than PTR or any other group that takes another person's information and regurgitates it with a new sentence or two and calls it their own. For all I know the goat could be one of the PTR team ,or it could very easily be one of Tony's mods. Nothing would surprise me.

What each and every one of us needs to start doing is use some common sense. We need to use discernment as well. If it is as Uncle Arthur says, very big egos that are stopping this from being visible, then there is no amount of information that Tony or anyone else can provide to us that is going to change or hurry this along.

Be of good cheer, do not be despondent, know that this truly is close to happening. What you do not want to do is waste your life waiting. Go out and LIVE. And while you are at it, do not be led like a sheep to the slaughter. Know your own worth and never allow another to threaten, bully or demean you. You are special and you are worth it!!!!
((hugs))
Angeni

Your opinion is not welcome here, said A23954 NEVER

So as with any forum, and just like my blogspot, comments are regulated. However, if I do not like something you might have to say I will allow your comments, I will just address them.

It has become very obvious that moderators have their own agendas. The idea of an impartial moderator is an oxymoron because most people have their own agendas.

However, since this is MY blog I can say what I wish.

For starters, has it ever occurred to anyone to ask why or how Private Messages get deleted in forums. On a forum I frequent I received a PM from someone using of course his forum unique ID. He told me my opinion was not welcome on that forum and he was the brother of one of the moderators and he wanted me to cease posting. I forwarded his comment on and got "Blessed" out by one of the moderators. (I guess I found out who he was the sister to...lol) The amazing thing is that that PM mysteriously vanished as did the PM from the moderator that "Blessed" me out. So please be aware that your Private Messages are NOT private.

While we are on the subject of opinions, let us go back to 2 of my favorite posters. One a horse by any other name and one a smelly barnyard animal. The horse faced one always rubbed noses with the smelly one, until the smelly one was no longer popular. Then all of a sudden the horse faced one decided she had NEVER took up for that smelly barn animal. How amazing that today when the barn wind changed and people decided they enjoyed smelling goat droppings, the horse is back to eating what the animals are dropping. 

So , this is my rant for the day. Your opinions are only welcomed on forums when they go along with mob mentality. Common sense, fact checking and intelligent conversations are no longer welcomed.

What a shame!

So, if you want to see Uncle Arthur et al you will only find him on here in the future. I love the info our fearless leader brings but his Mods need to learn that objectivity is the name of the moderating forums game .

FACT CHECKER Part A

I will be adding to this in posts that will follow but I posted this on a forum after someone claimed that Mnt Goat was right all the time.  Now Mnt Goat is posting under the name of GeorgeH. So who is this goat, and is their information factual?

This is not a negative post, we do this to all the other "gurus" all the time and others come on here and do it to the information that Tony brings.
Yesterday someone said that the goats info was almost always correct. So I decided to print out all the goats posts, and much to my surprise I realized that even I was blinded for a very long time. The goat even had me fooled. As many of you know I was a HUGE goat fan, I used to defend her the same way I see people doing now, so I guess I need to have some understanding of that.

However, it will take a long time to compare and contrast all the goats postings but here are just a few discrepancies that I found. It is confusing to post because it would be better off if I could do it in colums to compare and contrast....This is an ongoing process. It is not meant to bash anyone. It is meant to point out the fact that the goats information has been just as wrong as TerryKs. Also, I noticed a pattern of WHEN the goat would post. The goat always posted AFTER Tony or someone else that seemed to have good information. All she has did iss regurgitate the news we were already given.

YOU DO NOT NOTICE THIS SO MUCH UNTIL YOU PRINT THEM ALL OUT AND LAY THEM SIDE BY SIDE SO YOU CAN COMPARE AND CONTRAST.

1) On 07/10 
Smart Cards are activated, starting to roll out(same thing Tony had just said, go check his call notes)
~IMF is going ahead with the RV
~Project to remove the zeros is ALREADY DONE
~It DID RV FOR SURE. The CBI let itgo already
~Algorithms is the reason it is taking so long
We should see it today 07/10


2) On 07/16
~All smart cards are loaded now
~Project to delete or remove the zeros is well under way (On 07/10 she said the process was DONE)  
~RV is totally in the hands of Iraq (On 07/10 it had RV'd per goat and CBI had let it go already)

3) 07/22
~The holdup  is in Iraq and it is political stalling. Maliki is holding the world and the RV hostage ( What happened to it did RV for sure on 07/10)     

4)07/28
~Again QI cards all loaded
~NO political obstacles in Iraq to hold up the RV (I thought the RV happened on 07/10????)
~Hold up is NOW the IMF
~It was NOT Iraq holding it up. It was technical issues (Goat just said in past post it WAS IRAQ)
~Banking legislation coming on Aug 1 that is needed for the control of the money
(What was that legislation and once agan I thought the RV was done on 07/10)

5)08/03
~Confirmed that the RV would go international and USA to activate the rate. 
~We will be at banks before the end of the week, CONFIRMED THIS TODAY AGAIN
What happened to we already RV'd
~Maliki is still an issue (Thought Iraq as NOT the problem)

6) 08/05
~Iraqis are spending money on the Qi cards
~Project for deleting the zers is OVER, not about to begin as Kap said
~Post RV now, people taking their USD and buying the lower denoms. (save this thought for later or compare it to the recent posts)     
~WHY??? CAUSE THEY HAD AN RV





So, you tell me. After reading just these few past posts from the goat does it truly look to you like she has been right? Does it look like she just took the information that had already been shared with us by Tony and regurgitated it to us , with a lot of other words that didnt matter thrown in?

Like I said at the beginning, this isnt about bashing the goat. This is about checking the facts. The forum moderators allow people to come on and question Tony's information, they allow us to question TerryK. It is time we start Fact Checking people before we come on and say how they have never been wrong. 

if you read the goats posts you will see nothing but constant flip flopping.

Don't feed the bullies

Osda sunalei (Good morning)

So, what does it really matter? This  vi-s-vi (journey) is taking too long you say?

Angeni asked me to write another message that she can post on your forum, and I had to ask again WHY? Did you not learn to sit still and let the ka-ma-ma (butterfly)
come to you? I say that with a utsetsi ( smile)  

Why, after all you have been told by your Tony do you need anything else to calm your fears. Angeni  copied and pasted some things that were on your forum and shared them with me, asking for my opinion. I do not understand how people can get right out from under one batch of misinformation while appearing to get sucked right into another.

While your Tony is but a man as his wife always tells him, he is a good man, with a good heart, a strong mind and a deep sense of compassion. Why can you not just wait for his information to play out. Why must you always seek for more, more,more when he and others have told you this is done. 

I like this little note that Angeni sent me below. It says it all, but with some clarification needed, and lines up with what your Tony has told you.  While it is not tied to ObamaCare or the debt ceiling those things ARE being used to get what others want, so in that way they are tied into this.


 9-29-2013  Intel Guru Loechin   It seems like many of the…guru's are again searching for answers or intel as to where the RV is. It is not tied to Obama Care, the debt ceiling, a shutdown or any other…thing like that.  Several weeks ago I told you the important people were in fact exchanging and most thought I was nuts but now it's out and everyone agrees. Now they say we are waiting on activation but the truth is the activation has taken place. So with that said the rates are high and no delays and people are exchanging then guess what.... WE ARE NEXT.


So, every day is like the one before. You went to bed last night, thinking that today you would wake up to see this thing accomplished. You woke up and in your mind you see nothing and so once again you are hungry, seeking more.

The only thing I can tell you is the same thing you have been told repeatedly. The cards have been swiped to make this international. You should have seen the money in your accounts by now, because it IS DONE!  So, why you may ask, have you not seen this?  The reason is very simple and as old as the redwood trees in the forest. As I told you before it is all about manipulation and greed. For people who do not have money greed is synonymous with money. For the wealthy greed is u li ni gi du. (power/powerful) 

The manipulation that is playing out before your very eyes is not about he who has the most toys wins the game. It is about he who is the most u li ni gi du. I know Angeni uses my analogies a lot, but for now I want to use one of her favorite ones to explain this situation to you and I hope that you will listen. Angeni has a great distaste for bullies. She has seen many diniyotli (children)  bullied and in her profession she sees the end result of continued bullying and how it affects a life. The same thing is happening here in a bigger way. Each time you thought this was going to happen and it didn't, you can thank a bully and the people that gave in. Unfortunately , sometimes bullies use other people to get what they want and then when those people get pulled into the disarray they cannot get out. The best way to stop a bully is to stand up to them, and take your punches if you must, but if you continue to give in then the fight will just continue. Today the bully may want your seat on the bus, then tomorrow your lunch money, the next day your shoes , and then the next day your bike. The question is when does it stop? Who will have the courage to stand up to the bully? The bully tried to take the bike last night, and someone stood their ground and so the bully threw a punch(you did not get your money in your account). What will happen today? It will just depend on who is willing to stand up to whom. 

So, who do you believe? Your Tony has never lied to you. He is doing what he should do.  Listen CLOSELY to what he tells you, not only on his calls and his blasts but also in any random comments he makes as Angeni tells me he does on occasion. Do not give up in discouragement. Do not wait up every night waiting for that ka-ma-ma to land on your shoulder. Get your rest for you shall need it. The money will not go away while you are asleep, it will still be there in the morning.

Let me leave you with another good story. There is a great moral here for all to learn.

An old Cherokee chief was teaching his grandson about life. He explained to the child, "A fight is going on inside me. It is a terrible fight between two wolves.

One is evil - he is anger, hate, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, self-doubt and ego.

The other is good - he is joy, confidence, peace, love, hope, courage, serenity, humility, kindness, unselfishness, service, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith.

This same fight is going on inside you -and inside every other person, too."

The grandson thought about this for a moment, then turned to his grandfather and asked, "Grand Father, if this fight is going on inside of me, how shall I know which wolf will win?"

The wise old chief turned to his grandson, smiled knowingly and replied, "It is simple my Son, the one that will win is the one you feed."

Uncle Arthur (Inola)

More Goats in White Bikinis

Another beautiful weekend, although we are still waiting to see the digits in our accounts.

After finally seeing the goat outed for who he/she truly was I had hoped we would have maybe one day free of their annoying suppositions but I didn't get that lucky.

How blind can people be?  Well actually I think what caught my eye was "Bling for all to see" Which was later said to have been meant to be Blind for all to see.  Well, I for one am not blind, and a Goat by any other name is still a goat. 

If people would start paying attention to writing patterns they would be amazed at the OBVIOUS similarities in writing styles.  So funny how someone could be posting, never ever mention having any contacts and then all of a sudden have contacts who are so high up on the food chain.

I took this little excerpt from another goat by another name post;
"Some of the people I talk to/associated with are so much closer to the top of this than I could ever imagine being, and I no longer consider them "sources". I'm talking CEOs of major financial entities, past and present, some GOV that have sat in the oval office, and private sector "contractors" that have been at this from before anyone cared about the Kurds, Saddam, or WMDs. NONE of them have ever been completely right. NONE!  (Or at least they are not telling me what they really know because they can't). I can pick up the phone and call 50+ people I know in DC with several different "three letter agencies", and most of them have never even heard of dinar and those that have, are not aware of anything in particular going on. This event is so tightly controlled that even those who should know, only know their piece and the ultimate control and timing is known by maybe 10 people (IMO)?!?!  My "contacts" are as confused about what is going on as the next guy. I don't share much of what I hear because it would only add to the confusion and who am I anyway?  Does any of this contradict what Tony, Okie, Goat or any of them say?  Nope!"

Please do NOT be fooled by this goat in a white bikini. What is even funnier is that there are people who are so gullible that once again they are falling for it because they want anyone to tell them anything. In this same post this goat in the white bikini behind the trap door states that she is tired of being told by people who have only been in this 3 + years (me???) to do their own research (Uncle Arthur via me???)

The writing styles are all the same...I don't care what you happen to call yourself , whether it is Izzy, Dr Dinar, Mnt Goat or Trap..I would bet you dollars to doughnuts if this thing drags on much longer we will see this Trap doing the same thing Mnt Goat did, a little at a time. Fool me once, shame on you..Fool me twice..shame on me....

The Goats been Got

 The below is the latest  ridiculous goat post
Raising Kinder is so interesting and yet do rewarding too. Yesterday Meine Kinder came home from school. They told me about a game they played. The teacher lined up the Kinder and whispered something in the ear of the first student in line. Then each student repeated the sentence to the next and then to the next in the same manner. When it reached the last student the message had changed so much that it was not even close the original message. We all laughed and my girls then explained to me why the teacher did this exercise. I agree that it was a nice lesson that everyone should remember. Do you know what lesson they learned in their class yesterday?

Our business of today
It’s Saturday September 28th and still we are not yet able to go to the banks and exchange. Some have been on pins and needles now since last weekend waiting for our activation of the rates. Every night now since it seems yet another heightened alert in the early hours of the morning.

I wanted to come on today and give us all a quick update of where I see we are in this Iraq dinar revaluation. If you have not yet read my last 3 posts (UU8821, 4466, 0928)  it would be helpful if you did so. To do this helps in understanding this post. There is some great news today and it is all in our favor.

This post is a sensitive post. It is not about bashing any of the intel providers. It is about getting down to the bottom of why these rates sitting at the bank screens have not yet been activated. Do you not want to really know?

First I  want everyone to know that I firmly believe that the UST is intentionally stalling the activation of the IQD/IQN rates in the USA just like the country of Iraq is giving false misinformation to their citizens too. It is not about whether or not it will RV. We know that for a fact it will. But the problem for me comes about with this intentional lying to the people that it is going to happen tomorrow that bothers me, when they know the process is not yet completed. If we are intelligent people we can see these stalling tactics. We are not dumb. Are we? Again it goes back to who really has the final steps to implementing this RV? What still has to be accomplished to get this done? Is it in the hands of Iraq or strictly the USA?

I am not saying the intel providers don’t believe what they are saying or that they are not passing on what their sources are saying. Some are intentionally lying and they are so obvious.  But maybe some need to get better sources when time and time again nothing happens and we see no RV.  Before passing on most of this information to the listeners they need to use some more transparency.

My question is now – It’s now Saturday and what will they tell us tomorrow as to why this did not yet activate? This should be interesting and maybe entertaining too. Here are just some of the reasons for the hold up so we have been told. They of course will continue their course of action until one day it does RV since with this approach they can never be wrong. Since one day always follows the next day until one day it does RV. It will be always be the next day and then they will look like heroes. Again I say they can never be wrong with this approach….or can they?

1)president has given his final signature – How many times have we heard this before? How many times must he signoff?  This is funny since we are told that this is out of Iraq’s hands since they signed off. How many times must Iraq signoff? I do not take any of this information with any legitimacy.

2)private exchanges of the iqd/iqn have been completed in the last 24 hours in the u.s.a. by invitation only for select individuals – Really? I am simply amazed that they would still even be bold enough to tell us this. How many times have we heard this before?  

3)technical issues, correct rates not showing up in all the banks again. But we are told there are no more technical issues over and over again. Sorry once again I think this is just stalling. I do not believe that after all the testing they did on this technical process there are still issues in this area. Even after they had a clean run last weekend?. Were we being simply lied to.

4)We are waiting for the 800/888 number so we can call in to make appointments.
Why would the exchange centers and calling centers be manned and ready for almost a year now if there has been and is no one to call in and make an appointment?  In fact this is the latest reason for the activation hold up. I just do not believe this.

5)The macros in software used by operators in call in centers to manage appointments had to be revised. We were told that the centers were manned and ready for almost a year now so why all of a sudden now that when they want to activate the rates (and with such urgency so we are told) that they only now went back to revisit this call-in process when they have to us it? …and found the problems? What the heck have they been doing for the last year? Who designed and tested this software? I do not believe this could be so messed up and so incompetent. Sorry!

6)etc...etc...ect...

So what are some legitimate reasons why the rates are not activated?
From my perspective I still believe this currency revaluation process jumps back and forth from the hands of Iraq and then back to the UST in the USA. Both have had major responsibilities and roles to play in setting up for this event. The UST still has to activate the rates in the banks in the USA as that is their job but only from the direction as taked from the CBI of Iraq as it will post the final rate of the IQD/IQN on their CBI site. 

I believe this delay in just an illusion. There is in reality no delay ! It was created by these intel providers that keep telling us it is going to RV any day or any second now. A delay only resides in our minds. Get it ! Its like a crazy man does not know he is crazy cause if he did he would not be crazy. Of course when it does not RV there must be always an excuse to justify it. Indeed I believe there are no delays and they are following their time table and we will see the RV as I have described in my prior three posts and now this post.

Yesterday Friday 9/27 Iraq held another one of their economic councils.
Why is this one so important? I believe this one is important because it is laying out the final pieces to implementing their next 5 year economic plan, and the plan begins (gets kicked off) by restructuring of their currency. Over the last couple months we have repeatedly read articles talking about how the value of the currency would significantly increase in value and that it was soon to go international (it has not yet gone international). Attendees to this conference included members from the GOI, Parliament, the Finance Ministry, the CBI, the World Bank and the IMF.  

During this recent council they laid out the final plan and the next steps to take in this currency restructuring process as well as related topics. Discussions they talked about included not if they would revalue, but the final steps in the RV process. They talked about the pending banking laws and the implementing of the new tariffs. They talked about the official backing basket for the currency and if they met all article 8 compliance requirements. These requirements are needed to ascend in to the WTO.  I am told this also will allow the full implementation of the HCL law which needs the RV for the implement.  Do you remember articles telling us the Kurds has appropriated 500 and 1,000 to their citizens for surplus oil revenues? I know for a fact the Maliki stopped the payment of these funds to the Kurdistan region because HCL could not be fully implemented at that time without article 8 compliance. This can then open the door for full recognition of the IQD as an internationally recognized currency. I am told it was a very productive meeting with no political egg throwing or walkouts All agreed on the next steps. All agreed to go forward.    

A huge banking meeting this weekend
My CBI contact has told me that this weekend in Baghdad there is a also a huge banking meeting to discuss what was concluded during the economic council meeting last week. The purpose of this meeting is to disseminate the needed information to the banks for implementation and the final timetables for each next step.  

Summary
If you have been reading my posts for the last month you can see how we are aligning to events such as a new fiscal year and some final steps in Iraq that will lead to the timeframe planned for this RV event. The Iraq finance ministry has always stated in numerous articles that they require (not request) that any significant currency change  coincide with their financial and accounting periods.

I know it is hard to wait for the RV and we all think about it everyday. It has become a part of our lives and has engrossed us. Some say they are going about their business and don’t want to know about any daily news and just want a date and a rate and when they can exchange it. I say this is very hard to do since it is like Christmas time when you see the gifts under the tree and can’t open them till Christmas morning. It is hard not to want to get involved. It is hard waiting and anticipating. But our special time is very near and I know this for a fact. Remember I have repeatedly said that we can expect to open our presents in late September early October timeframe. We are now in this timeframe. I have also said in my past post be careful what you ask for (UU0120) and even had a special three part post dedicated to this topic. I am telling you all this now more from other information I know than what I am allowed or can not post in this forum but I will reveal this information to you at post RV, if you still want to know.  

It is interesting (and sometimes entertaining) to be involved deeply in this RV process as it plays out but we must also use some common sense in using the information given to us by these sources. These sources need to stall us in the USA just as Iraq has been giving false information to their citizens too. How many times have we heard that the news in Iraq is telling the people that in the coming days……da,,da,,da,,  Seems this stalling tactics are  now a common tool being used as these intel source disseminate these last days of  propaganda. Remember we have been told many, many time upfront there would be much disinformation and lies being told as we near the finish line.

Remember also a lesson learned from the Nazi propaganda machine during WWII. Their same doctrines are being used on the world today since their records and documentation were not lost in the war. It goes something like this -[ keep the masses in a constant state of confusion and fear and they have no foundation of truth to begin the process of questioning and knowing the truth ]. We can all now see just how good they have become at this as they are using these same tactics now on us.  

I am not calling the RV today or tonight but the final process is in motion and we should see it very shortly and I mean very shortly.  

Hope this helps everyone.

Peace and Luv to ya, 


mnt goat
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And our sweet TNT's answers :) Gotta luv me some Tony and Mrs Tony
TNT - I am still looking for this before the first of Oct. All the news that I have received today still says that people have been paid at the rate of $25.87 (in Iraq and in D.C.).  Your turn is coming. Now that's all the good news there is since I did the call yesterday.

It seems like every weekend, this board just goes crazy.  There is always someone willing to tell you that their intel is better than anyone else's and that they are the only one who possibly know everything that is going on.  I always tell you to gather as much info as you can and then fill in the missing pieces of your puzzle (this requires that you do a little work on your own and to use some common sense).  No one knows 100% what is going on.  Everyone gets pieces.

I get pieces from all around the globe, 3 letter agencies, boots on ground (here and Iraq), banking contacts in 5 different countries, politicians, call centers and cashout centers and a host of others.
Now if you think for one second that the entire world has gotten together and said let's all tell Tony a bunch of lies, so that he can tell everyone on his call, YOU ARE AN IDIOT (the mods will kick you out if you use this word).

First of all, I am not that important and second of all you are not that important to the PTB, that they have to devise a world wide conspiracy plan for you.  I have told you several times and you should know that if they didn't want you to have this money, they would have changed the rules a long time ago.  But believe what you want.

Now for the last couple of years, I have brought you information days and weeks ahead of some others, yet they have the nerve to questions my sources.  There are members (haters in disguise) who have come here not because they want to hear what I have to say, but just to cause a problem or to disrupt the harmony that we have as a team.  You know who they are or can find out by checking on all of the post that they have made.  We know where most of them have come from, which once again is mind boggling, they didn't want us over there and yet they keep coming over here.  Guys don't let them upset your weekend.  The mods are watching and a plan of action is in motion. You will see the results tomorrow.

As far as challenging my information, that's ok, but calling me a liar (no matter how it is disguised) will not be tolerated by my wife (she's making me do this update).  Guys I think it is ok to have open discussion, I think you are adult enough that no matter who comes over to our site to post, you will figure out who is telling the truth and who is trying to slowly manipulate you.  I see some of you doing and pointing out the facts for others, but it is up to them to see it for themselves.  I have constantly been trying to give you hints of things to look for in peoples character that exposes who they are.  I am hoping that I am doing the right thing, because as soon as the RV is announced you will need this super power,

So let me answer some of these questions that you have regarding the latest information.

"1) The President has given his final signature – How many times have we heard this before? How many times must he signoff? This is funny since we are told that this is out of Iraq’s hands since they signed off. How many times must Iraq signoff? I do not take any of this information with any legitimacy.

     Well first of all I have confirmed through the agencies in D.C., that this did in fact happen Thursday evening.  Has this ever happened before, yes.  Was it revoked,yes.  Did I already tell you that it takes 3 signatures to accomplish this, yes.

Has Iraq signed off, yes.  Was it revoked, no.  Do we need them to signoff again, no.  They are not in charge and have not been for quite sometime.  Why someone would want you to think that Iraq could be in charge one week and the U.S. the next and then back to Iraq and back to the U.S. makes no sense to me at all.  We now know that the UN took a vote on Friday and announced that Iraq was now out of Chapter 7, we know this morning that there was a news article welcoming Iraq into the WTO.  If I was you, I would look up those qualifications (you might be surprised at what you see).  If Iraq was in charge of the RV, there would have been a public announcement by now.


2) Private exchanges of the iqd/iqn have been completed in the last 24 hours in the U.S.A. by invitation only for select individuals – Really? I am simply amazed that they would still even be bold enough to tell us this. How many times have we heard this before?

     We have heard several times that private exchanges have taken place and that people have received skrs.  We have even heard that cards were loaded in Iraq and have received confirmation from boots on the ground.  What we have not heard in the past but are now hearing from contractors in Iraq and from privilaged people in D.C., is that they have received or participated in a currency exchange which started late Thursday night and into Friday at the rate of $25.87.  As of Friday evening this was stopped, due to the fact that the public announcement was not made as scheduled.


3) Technical issues, correct rates not showing up in all the banks again. But we are told there are no more technical issues over and over again. Sorry, once again I think this is just stalling. I do not believe that after all the testing they did on this technical process there are still issues in this area. Even after they had a clean run last weekend?. Were we being simply lied to?

     I clearly stated earlier in the week that all the technical issues had been removed and that the banking systems was ready to go.  I even told you about them catching those who were trying to manipulate it for personal gain.  On the call I explained to you the new security system that was put in Thursday night.  I even explained to you how it was put in a region at a time and why they did it this way.  If someone has better info, ask them to please share.

4) We are waiting for the 800/888 number so we can call in to make appointments.
Why would the exchange centers and calling centers be manned and ready for almost a year now if there has been and is no one to call in and make an appointment? In fact this is the latest reason for the activation hold up. I just do not believe this.

     They have been manning banks and call centers since Feburary.  Don't forget guys this was supposed to happen in April.  They had the basis for the rollout to take place, but the closer they got to actully having to do this, the more they realized that they weren't ready.  This plan has been just like the RV itself (changed many times).  As groups changed lately and the playing field has now been leveled amongst the banks, the rollout system had to be revamped.  I know some of you think you know what it takes to complete this, but you don't.  We are not talking about you calling AT&T and saying I need 5 800#s for my company and them running by Monday (which would not happen).  We are talking about the UST issuing out new numbers to each bank.  We are talking about each one of those banks then having to setup their call centers to process you according to their unique procedures.  There is a whole lot more involved in this then you think.

Here's a good example from one of our members:

10:18 PM [psychicgrama] I just got off the phone with a very interesting man who explained to me some of what is going on with 800#. What I found out was this, they had to wait until every state & territory of the US was closed & ready to test. He said this happens with a lot of companies who set up 800 numbers. This situation is special because of security & timing. Once Hawaii, puerto rico etc were all closed down, the they have to test everyting for continuity & connectivity, its tested once, twice, so on & so on. once they arre convinced it is "live" then they turn it on & make sure it is going to stay on they make calls into the system, do transfer calls from all the satelLite banks etc. Once it is a solid working phone setup they turn everything on & sit & wait to make surethere are no "bugs" then run security taps etc. When all of that is done it will go live. I only trust this man cause he works for the GOV. Hes not personally involved but know what has to happen. Dont be surprised if this just shows up at any time"


5) The macros in software used by operators in call in centers to manage appointments had to be revised. We were told that the centers were manned and ready for almost a year now so why all of a sudden now that when they want to activate the rates (and with such urgency so we are told) that they only now went back to revisit this call-in process when they have to us it? …and found the problems? What the heck have they been doing for the last year? Who designed and tested this software? I do not believe this could be so messed up and so incompetent. Sorry!"

     See above answer.


The sad part about this blast, is the fact that I had to do it at all.  This is information that I've told you all week long and none of it has changed.  One person came on here and gave you their opinon of what they think is going on.  They explained to you how they interpreted some articles in Iraq newspapers and what they think needs to be accomplished in order for you to see the RV.  While I respect everyones opinon, I don't necessarily agree with everything they say.  I know for a fact that most of the things they are waiting on to be accomplished, have already been accomplished, they are just waiting to be made public.  They will not be made public until the RV is announced.

So, I can say this one more time.  I feel that I have some of the best connections/resources available.  I fully 100% trust their information or I wouldn't be passing it on to you.  I do get information at times that completes my puzzle a little more than yours, but you have to know by now that the only reason I don't pass it on is because of their security.  I know we are ahead of most on receiving intel and that is most of the problem with those that disagree.  We also know from experience that they do catch up, but we never hear them come back and say.......oh yeah, they were right.  It really doesn't matter though, because we don't need it.  All we need is the RV...  Let them laugh now and tell you that we don't know what we are talking about, it's ok, this is not a competion (not to us anyway).  When the end comes you will know who knew, who was just guessing and who was just trying to manipulate you for their own purpose.

Don't be surprised to see some familar faces depart this site.  TNT Dinar - Tony